Abandoned Terraforming Project problem (2024)

In my 2.2.6 playthrough I encountered the abandoned terraforming project on a colony. I didn't want to risk turning my colony into a tomb world, so I chose to dismantle the equipment and gained the terraforming tech. This also gave my colony a -10% happiness modifier and -20% food production. Later, I tried to terraform the colony again to remove the modifier, but it didn't go away at all. The event texts say that the world is like that because of partial terraforming, so it would make sense that terraforming it again should make the climate stable again (removing the negative modifier). I'm not sure if this is intentional or not, but punishing players permanently because they choose not to take a risk is not a good idea. In my opinion, the negative modifier should go away if you terraform the colony again.

(Screenshot taken after I terraformed my colony from an ocean world to a continental world)

Main gripe I have with this event, is that it forces you to save-scum abuse, and punishes you if you don't gamble with quite the steep penalty.

It's a pity that there's no extra options for enduring the penalty and waiting for when when terraforming tech is fully understood, to completely remedy the incomplete terraform. And when you lose the gamble and it becomes Toxic, it's not becoming a "Terraforming Candidate" to undo it later.

Every time this one happens, I usually just savescum abuse until it stops rolling me tomb/bad/toxic, it can be a real bummer if it's one of the earlier 20+ size planets.

Diezy said:

Main gripe I have with this event, is that it forces you to save-scum abuse, and punishes you if you don't gamble with quite the steep penalty.

It's a pity that there's no extra options for enduring the penalty and waiting for when when terraforming tech is fully understood, to completely remedy the incomplete terraform.

Every time this one happens, I usually just savescum abuse until it stops rolling me tomb/bad/toxic.

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Yeah, (practically) forcing players to save-scum is poor game design, in my opinion. And unfortunately, I'm playing on Ironman so no save-scumming.

Diezy said:

And when you lose the gamble and it becomes Toxic, it's not becoming a "Terraforming Candidate" to undo it later.

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See Also

Abandoned Terraforming Equipment - Stellaris WikiAbandoned Terraforming Project question (spoilers, obviously)Abandoned Terraforming Equipment

Afaik it can't become toxic anymore. The negative outcome was changed in one of the last patches from toxic into a tomb world.

That's

the abandoned terraforming equipment event baby!

Just gotta ride the lightning. Permanently losing a size 24 colony will sting, sure, but it won't lose your campaign.

EDIT - Wait, the worst case scenario is it turns into a tomb world? Well that makes things so much easier.

Yes this event outcomes are very annoying. Agree that dismantle equipment event chain should be changed.

In current version, resume process is better choice in every aspect. Gaia world is nice, mutant attack is ok if you prepared enough armies, and tomb world isn't big deal if you have terraforming tech. If you are going bio path, tomb world is rather best choice because you can trigger self-modification on the tomb world so that your main species become tomb-world preference.

Nobody's forcing you to save scum.

Personally, I like that it's a tough choice to make. Do you accept the planet becoming less habitable, or try to make it more habitable at the risk of ruining it?

Firstly I absolutely agree that re-terraformig the planet should remove the modifier, I think if I was in charge I'd make it an special project like the atmspheric hallucinogen with a terraforming tech restriction.

However; "forcing players to save scum"... really? -10% happines and -20% food... wat?

Admittedly I'm one of those mashocists who didnt like the change that only a few anomalies can eat your scientist anymore, but that reasoning truly does not compute for me, its not even close to the worst negative modifier you can get on a planet.

Mitchz95 said:

Nobody's forcing you to save scum.

Personally, I like that it's a tough choice to make. Do you accept the planet becoming less habitable, or try to make it more habitable at the risk of ruining it?

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I understand that sometimes you have to make a choice, and I have no problem with negative outcomes. In fact, a game without that would be quite boring. The problem here, though, is that the negative modifiers permanently stay with you.

Big Dead One said:

In my 2.2.6 playthrough I encountered the abandoned terraforming project on a colony. I didn't want to risk turning my colony into a tomb world, so I chose to dismantle the equipment and gained the terraforming tech. This also gave my colony a -10% happiness modifier and -20% food production. Later, I tried to terraform the colony again to remove the modifier, but it didn't go away at all. The event texts say that the world is like that because of partial terraforming, so it would make sense that terraforming it again should make the climate stable again (removing the negative modifier). I'm not sure if this is intentional or not, but punishing players permanently because they choose not to take a risk is not a good idea. In my opinion, the negative modifier should go away if you terraform the colony again.View attachment 461447
(Screenshot taken after I terraformed my colony from an ocean world to a continental world)

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The post Terraforming Event clears a lot of modifiers, but this one is for some reason not one of them:

# Clear deposits after some terraforming actionsplanet_event = { id = action.68 is_triggered_only = yes hide_window = yes immediate = { if = { limit = { OR = { is_planet_class = pc_machine is_planet_class = pc_hive } } clear_deposits = yes remove_modifier = "natural_beauty" remove_modifier = "atmospheric_aphrodisiac" remove_modifier = "atmospheric_hallucinogen" remove_modifier = "lush_planet" } remove_modifier = "bleak_planet" remove_modifier = "dangerous_wildlife" remove_modifier = "hazardous_weather" remove_modifier = "wild_storms" remove_modifier = "irradiated_planet" }}

Big Dead One said:

Yeah, (practically) forcing players to save-scum is poor game design, in my opinion. And unfortunately, I'm playing on Ironman so no save-scumming.

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You still can save scum, the method is different in iron man. Alt-tab or open the task manager then close the program. start up the game again and you will start at the last save point.

OfficerBrennan said:

That's

X-Com

the abandoned terraforming equipment event baby!

Just gotta ride the lightning. Permanently losing a size 24 colony will sting, sure, but it won't lose your campaign.

EDIT - Wait, the worst case scenario is it turns into a tomb world? Well that makes things so much easier.

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It also kills the colony, even if your species has survivor/tomb world preference. Happened to me when I was playing post-apocalyptic game, I thought "either I get a gaia world or a tomb world, both work for me" but the pops died! It was like my 3rd most developed planet.